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By ProPlus, Sat 24 May at 9:59pm 
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Barcode wrote:



I enjoy cardio and in a weight loss programme will incorporate it. I get annoyed people slag it off as if it has no place at all.



Has anyone actually done that? I've not seen anything like that. I've seen people write that it's not necessary and that you don't need it but not any of this childish cardio bashing. Just do whatever you want. It's not all about trying to get as lean or as big as you possibly can. You can exercise purely because you enjoy it!

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Re: Incorporating cardio versus weights only

By Phoenix, Sun 25 May at 12:11am 
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Barcode wrote:

Phoenix wrote:

I can't believe how easily you changed your mind barcode. I never figured you one to go whichever way the wind blows. How disappointing.



On the contrary I haven't at all.
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Oh barcode, I was taking the piss! Like that scene in friends, when Phoebe nags Ross to admit theory of evolution might not be true then rips him apart ;P

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Re: Incorporating cardio versus weights only

By Claudio, Sun 25 May at 8:44am 
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Phoenix wrote:

Barcode wrote:

Phoenix wrote:

I can't believe how easily you changed your mind barcode. I never figured you one to go whichever way the wind blows. How disappointing.



On the contrary I haven't at all.
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Oh barcode, I was taking the piss! Like that scene in friends, when Phoebe nags Ross to admit theory of evolution might not be true then rips him apart ;P



So, that's why Phoenix is called Phoenix - he's a Lisa Kudrow fan. Still Courteney for me.

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Re: Incorporating cardio versus weights only

By deleted4, Sun 25 May at 9:25am 
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Phoenix wrote:

Barcode wrote:

Phoenix wrote:

I can't believe how easily you changed your mind barcode. I never figured you one to go whichever way the wind blows. How disappointing.



On the contrary I haven't at all.
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Oh barcode, I was taking the piss! Like that scene in friends, when Phoebe nags Ross to admit theory of evolution might not be true then rips him apart ;P



Grrrrrrrr :-)

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Re: Incorporating cardio versus weights only

By ArtMaster, Wed 4 Jun at 3:03am 
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Just out of interest, is there a thread which details the HIT plan that LAWilson used 3 times a week? I dont recall coming across it on the board to date and am interested as he was clearly in great shape.

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Re: Incorporating cardio versus weights only

By mexoclas, Wed 4 Jun at 9:38am 
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I don't think he used HIT?

He also ate minimal carbs on rest days *shock horror* :)

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Re: Incorporating cardio versus weights only

By deleted4, Wed 4 Jun at 9:41am 
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Carbs... life's little fat builders! :-D

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Re: Incorporating cardio versus weights only

By Anthony, Wed 4 Jun at 9:52am 
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Hi Mate

ArtMaster wrote:

Just out of interest, is there a thread which details the HIT plan that LAWilson used 3 times a week? I dont recall coming across it on the board to date and am interested as he was clearly in great shape.



Don't know specifically because he's mentioned it in a few peoples logs, and I also posted an alternative for those of us who don't have his superhuman genetics once.

His routine would be what you would call classic HIT, in that he did 12 exercises, 1 set each to failure, with minimal rest in between, and did this 3 times per week.

What I did for the rest of us was cut that down to 8-10 exercises, and reccomend 2-3 times per week instead. Same idea, just more suited to those in the middle of the bell shape curve!

Barcode wrote:

Carbs... life's little fat builders! :-D



You mean bruners. Carbs are the catalyst to fat burning. The wood for the fire if you like.

Anthony

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By deleted4, Wed 4 Jun at 9:58am 
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Anthony wrote:

You mean burners. Carbs are the catalyst to fat burning. The wood for the fire if you like.

Anthony



Surely fat is the wood on the fat burning fire?

Carbs would be maybe the fire lighter?

If you remove carbs surely the body would just light the fire anyway and burn those fatty, fat, fats as required? Is it not what body builders do to remove fat from their bodys?

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Re: Incorporating cardio versus weights only

By Anthony, Wed 4 Jun at 10:05am 
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Barcode wrote:

Anthony wrote:

You mean burners. Carbs are the catalyst to fat burning. The wood for the fire if you like.

Anthony



Surely fat is the wood on the fat burning fire?

Carbs would be maybe the fire lighter?



Depends how you want to use the analogy. The wood is what makes the fire burn. Firelighters will work as an analogy too if you prefer it, you're just saying the same thing.

Barcode wrote:

If you remove carbs surely the body would just light the fire anyway and burn those fatty, fat, fats as required? Is it not what body builders do to remove fat from their bodys?



Some do. In most recent years when the winner is the guy with the best chemist, you'll see all kinds of wierd stuff going on. It's something that became popular in bodybuilding in the 90's, roughly the same time physiques started taking a huge turn for the worse. If you have the 1 in a million genetics to be a bodybuilder, plus your own personal seat at narcotics annonymous, it wont matter what you do.

Go back before steroids were the mitigating factor, and you'll find their diet was carb heavy in most cases, up to 70%.

Anthony

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