I wasn't aware that Dorian Yates was 10 stone when he started lifting.
My first question would be - How old was he when he started lifting?
When I said that a 150 pound man can realistically get to 180 pounds, I meant a reasonably lean man, that weighs 150 pounds when fully physically mature. I apologise if I didn't make that clear in my original post.
I don't know anybody who was fully physically mature at the age of 15. Nobody. Good genetics for muscle building or poor genetics for muscle building. You have not finished growing by the age of 15, 16,17 or even 18.
If a guy is reasonably lean and weighs 150 pounds at the age of, say, 27, and he has never lifted, I think 180 pounds is a good long term goal, if he does it naturally. It's not living in a dream world, but it's not selling yourself short. By the age of 27, you will probably be as big as you'll ever naturally get, without lifting.
If a guy weighs 150 pounds at the age 12, it's probably a fairly safe bet that he'll be a lot bigger (180 or 190) by the time he's 18, even if he never lifts in those 6 years. That's 6 whole years of growing, with hormones (the natural kind - raging through your body).
I'm not saying wait until the age of 27 to start lifting. I'm just saying don't compare a 150 teenager that hasn't finished growing and who went on to use drugs, with a 150 pound 20-something who is naturally skinny and will never use drugs.
Something that has been puzzling me about bulking up, when you bulk you inevitably gain some fat along with lean mass, so how do you shift this?
It's natural that you will and in my opinion the only way to put some serious muscle and strength on is to ramp up the calories and cut the cardio down.
Losing fat afterwards and keeping the strength and muscle now there''s the interesting bit.... ;-)
And I don't know how to do it as I keep the fat and the muscle..
Just been looking at the Daniel Craig workout which hopefully I'll be starting in a few weeks time, was wondering about how exactly it is done. As there are three different muscle group 'pairings'. Are these all done in the one session or do you work back/chest one day, arms/midsection another day and Legs/ Shoulders/ Rib Cage on the final day?