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By Dutch, Fri 4 Jul at 2:16pm 
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ArthurP wrote:


I think you fail because you should have ordered her a taxi as opposed to expecting her to turn up on a donkey



nah mate, i fail because i forget to take my wedding ring off! ;O)

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Re: Date guide for men who get it wrong

By JustThe5, Fri 4 Jul at 2:17pm 
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PGE wrote:

I read this in the London paper the other day and it made me laugh. I agree with it!



Basically it is about men doing all the effort and paying.

Venue - why does the man always have to choose the venue and what if the man is asked out

Confirmation - women do not stop talking, so having a short chat is not possible`

First drink - what you like to eat, what would to like to drink, when are you expected to go to the loo so I can ensure they have enough toilet roll, etc

Flattery - easy part, just lie

Bill - what if the women asked the man out?



If women want men to be this way, fine - let's go back to traditional roles and take back voting,

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By PGE, Fri 4 Jul at 2:19pm 
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dillion wrote:

hahaha! re "The First Drink" - is this why the date rape case is on the increase?



Well when you are on a date with someone, you can't not let them buy you a drink or insist you take your drink to the loo when you go!

If you know someone enough to swap numbers/meet for a date then I think a certain level of trust needs to be there.

If it's an internet or possibly blind date you should probably exercise some caution!

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By PGE, Fri 4 Jul at 2:22pm 
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JustThe5 wrote:




If women want men to be this way, fine - let's go back to traditional roles and take back voting,



LMAO!

I think if the woman does the asking out then she should pay and choose the venue.

What's wrong with a man taking the lead a bit when he's asked a woman out?!

All my friends are impressed when a man chooses the venue, books the table etc. It shows he's bothered enough to make a bit of an effort. It isn't about spending money.

Edited Fri 4 Jul at 2:23pm

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By Matt, Fri 4 Jul at 2:23pm 
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the drink would be warm by the time the lady actually arrived.

and if you have gone out for something to eat, then you don't have to battle at the bar to get a drink, you have waiters.

I don't think encouraging people to let strangers have drinks waiting is a good idea.

Edited Fri 4 Jul at 2:23pm

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By JustThe5, Fri 4 Jul at 2:24pm 
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PGE wrote:

What's wrong with a man taking the lead a bit?!



There is nothing wrong with taking the leading; however, from what you wrote it seemed like the men have to make all the effort during the date and all the women has to do is is spend hours getting ready and expect to be treated.

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By PGE, Fri 4 Jul at 2:26pm 
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JustThe5 wrote:

all the women has to do is is spend hours getting ready and expect to be treated.



I didn't write it, the Londonpaper wrote it.

Anyway, you think the above is easy?!

God help the world if men begrudge treating a lady nicely on a first date.

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By liquidfit, Fri 4 Jul at 2:28pm 
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Venue
This is your decision, not a joint effort. Many men assume it's gentlemanly to ask a lady where she'd like to go. Wrong. a) Lady already has a hundred pre-date decisions to make and won't welcome another. b) She doesn't want to be responsible for the evening. Instead, suggest an area of London convenient to you both and if she approves, go ahead and book a table.



Do this!

PGE wrote:



Confirmation
Women respond extremely well to an ETA. Telephoning with your proposed time and place is generally preferred to a text, but keep the chat short. Ideally, she'd like to receive this call the night before, or the morning of the date at the latest. You may think 5pm is a reasonable time to arrange the evening ahead. It ‘s not.



Do this!

PGE wrote:



The first drink
It goes without saying that you must arrive before her. But don't just sit there, send her a text enquiring what she'd like to drink. This move is clever. First, it sets you up as Mr Suave-Yet-Caring. Second, it allows you to give her your full attention when she arrives, rather than trying to get the barman to notice you.



Only do this if I don't arrange to actually pick her up.

PGE wrote:



Flattery will get you anywhere
Remember: your date has spent the past three hours staining her shins orange and wrestling with a hairdryer, for your viewing pleasure. So it's only polite to comment. Focus on details, and avoid sleaziness by keeping compliments above the neck or below the knee – shoes and eyelashes are both safe bets.



I wouldn't do that, just a 'you are looking lovely this evening' will do me.

PGE wrote:



The bill
Frequently the most toe-curling moment of a date. If possible, deal with the bill while she is in the loo – sparing you both her token wallet reach. If not, pay swiftly and discreetly without studying the total. Nothing kills the mood like a man grumbling about service charge.



I either do that, or use an excuse of going to the toilet and do it on the way there.

All in I am a good catch! lol

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By PGE, Fri 4 Jul at 2:38pm 
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liquidfit wrote:



All in I am a good catch! lol



Yay!

It's all about first impressions I think. Not about having to pay for everything. For example on a first date I would like the man to offer to pay for a meal if we have one, but i'd buy every other round of drinks. And then if we went out again I'd buy the dinner.

Of course you do run the risk of not getting a second date, so you never get that meal bought back for you! :-D

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By JustThe5, Fri 4 Jul at 2:55pm 
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PGE wrote:


God help the world if men begrudge treating a lady nicely on a first date.



We do not have an issue treating women on dates (not just the first date); however, to be told what to do and what we already do is wrong, is not the way to go about it.

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