Bottom line is, here is yet ANOTHER thread about you opening your legs in a second and causing susequent problems. Do you never learn? What is the point in all these threads if you take no advice from them? I don't mean to sound harsh, but it's so repetitive, seems like people are wasting their breath on you.
lardass wrote:
For whatever reason, you seem to like to say "yes". Alot of the blokes on here applaud that, why wouldnt they? Whatever the reasons for this, it seems to put you in precarious positions time and time again. I would look at the root cause, as opposed to the one off impact of it happening.
Nul Point!
Having a sex life, even if it is casual sex, is not aberrant, wrong or a problem. It's normal.
It's the people who don't have sex lives or don't have access to casual sex whose perspectives become warped.
Having a sex life might bring problems sometimes but stopping sex altogther is a cure worse than the disease, throwing the baby out with the bathwater etc.
Criticizing a woman for behaviour that most men would jump at given the chance is hypocrisy.
All aspects of life bring problems. Marriage and child rearing cause most people the biggest problems but nobody ever suggests that is cured by not doing either.
Apple comes on here usually in a self-deprecatory way to share problems and a laugh about them and for the occasional good bit of advice or emotional support.
She is not in some sort of crisis that needs to be resolved before her life is ruined.
A board that invites sex threads is exactly the right place for her to share these issues.
Complaining about people talking about their sex lives on a sex board is like complaining about the boring or repetitive nature of the weight loss/weight gain/muscle build/exercise regime issues on those threads threads.
People who don't want to read about Apple's sex life can choose not to click on Apple threads on the sex boards.
Having a sex life, even if it is casual sex, is not aberrant, wrong or a problem. It's normal.
If it wasn't a problem Apple wouldn't be posting about her problems.
My point is not that what she is doing is wrong as such, but she does the same things then comes on here and moans about her problems when it is clearly her own fault.
In my opinion the only reason Apple starts these threads is for people like you to come on and say 'oh it's ok, what you're doing is fine.' Thus Apple doesn't feel like a dirty girl anymore. *Yawn*
For whatever reason, you seem to like to say "yes". Alot of the blokes on here applaud that, why wouldnt they? Whatever the reasons for this, it seems to put you in precarious positions time and time again. I would look at the root cause, as opposed to the one off impact of it happening.
Nul Point!
Having a sex life, even if it is casual sex, is not aberrant, wrong or a problem. It's normal.
Absolutely.
But, it is wrong or a problem if it causes you problems which is evident in apples case.
Mark wrote:
It's the people who don't have sex lives or don't have access to casual sex whose perspectives become warped.
Not sure about your definition of warped in this context.
I think your mean people who dont have lots of casual sex dont see it as a good thing.
Of course it can be a good thing, provided both parties know what they're doing. In apples case it seems to cause her problems.
Additionally there is always going to be an emotional problem for some people, and again, apple has been very emotional about her problems in the past.
Mark wrote:
Having a sex life might bring problems sometimes but stopping sex altogther is a cure worse than the disease, throwing the baby out with the bathwater etc.
Criticizing a woman for behaviour that most men would jump at given the chance is hypocrisy.
Women are different in some ways. Women are more emotional in general .
Even men wouldnt necessarily feel good about having lots of casual sex. Maybe some would, but some wouldnt.
Mark wrote:
All aspects of life bring problems. Marriage and child rearing cause most people the biggest problems but nobody ever suggests that is cured by not doing either.
I dont think anyone is proposing she stops having sex, but maybe it would be a good idea to do it in the context of a safe relationship? I know thats probably against your morales!
Mark wrote:
Apple comes on here usually in a self-deprecatory way to share problems and a laugh about them and for the occasional good bit of advice or emotional support.
She is not in some sort of crisis that needs to be resolved before her life is ruined.
Oh, but I think she is, or at least she was. It wasnt so long ago that her life was about to fall apart.
Mark wrote:
A board that invites sex threads is exactly the right place for her to share these issues.
Yip, hence she has had responses/advice.
Mark wrote:
Complaining about people talking about their sex lives on a sex board is like complaining about the boring or repetitive nature of the weight loss/weight gain/muscle build/exercise regime issues on those threads threads.
People who don't want to read about Apple's sex life can choose not to click on Apple threads on the sex boards.
Absolutely, but its a free forum and I can imagine people can give advice provided its with the right intentions.
Having a sex life, even if it is casual sex, is not aberrant, wrong or a problem. It's normal.
If it wasn't a problem Apple wouldn't be posting about her problems.
My point is not that what she is doing is wrong as such, but she does the same things then comes on here and moans about her problems when it is clearly her own fault.
In my opinion the only reason Apple starts these threads is for people like you to come on and say 'oh it's ok, what you're doing is fine.' Thus Apple doesn't feel like a dirty girl anymore. *Yawn*
Doesn't often agree with mexoclas, but does here.
I think Dr P intervened at some point - we cover the same ground, and it ends up with somebody getting upset. If it's not an issue, all the banter is fine and should be taken in good spirit; if it's an issue the thread shouldn't be started.
Do you not have a conflict of interest in the issue, seeing as you profit from promiscious behaviour?
Only if you think nurses profit from people being ill...
Matt wrote:
That is all well and good if the people are all happy with the arrangement. Apple obviously isn't, hence all the threads.
mexoclas wrote:
If it wasn't a problem Apple wouldn't be posting about her problems. My point is not that what she is doing is wrong as such, but she does the same things then comes on here and moans about her problems when it is clearly her own fault.
This is a matey place.I think Apple came on here for matey advice or at least to share a crazy situation she found herself in. Probably looking for some banter or some ribbing and a sympathetic ear. Fair enough. Why should she be treated as if she’d just been diagnosed with lung cancer caused by her own smoking? I just think the reaction is out of proportion to the situation.
Let me give you a for instance. Years ago I had sex with a woman I had an occasional relationship with, the night before going on holiday with an ex. As a result I had a bite mark on my shoulder and claw marks down my back. The next morning, when I was due to fly, I rang around 3 mates to beg for advice on how to cover them up/explain them away or whatever. All of them had a laugh at my expense then turned their minds to helping me solve my problem. None of them got on their pompous high horses and started lecturing me about it being my fault, how they’d heard it all before, why was I boring them with the same thing over again about or any unmatey stuff like that.
Perhaps that was because they were mates rather than sanctimonious prigs. Or maybe it was because they had sex lives of their own and didn’t lead frigid bitter lives consumed with resentment that nobody found them attractive. Who knows? But I don’t think it is too much for someone to expect matiness, sympathy and understanding on a sex thread instead of Mary Whitehouse’s amen chorus. If it really is so dull and repetitive, let us not bore you any further: shove off to one of those highly varied threads about building muscle!
mexoclas wrote:
In my opinion the only reason Apple starts these threads is for people like you to come on and say 'oh it's ok, what you're doing is fine.' Thus Apple doesn't feel like a dirty girl anymore. *Yawn*
Really? You don’t think it could possibly be to pass on her news and gossip with her mates about what she has been up to?
Remind me again what’s bad about dirty girls?
lardass wrote:
I dont think anyone is proposing she stops having sex, but maybe it would be a good idea to do it in the context of a safe relationship? I know thats probably against your morals!
Swingers are in safe relationships lardass. Very safe, given what they do together.
Perhaps that was because they were mates rather than sanctimonious prigs. .
And they know you in real life, so you have more context.
Apple's posts are sometimes worrying - and she has posted about having 'issues', and I think even you, Mr Roberts, may have suggested therapy (although I may be wrong about that).
It's the mismatch between those posts and the "dozy tart" posts which is the worry, and behind it all people don't want Apple to get hurt.
