Thanks for the quick replies.
PEG - Natalie goes to sleep around 10-11pm but sleeps until 7-8am so I couldn't go after she is asleep.
CSM101 - I agree that I certainly seem to be worring about this more than I think I need to, but I thought it worth getting the views from you guys.
Mexo - This is as I thought. I am doing dead lifts, shoulder and squats with a bar in my Tuesday night routine but still not enough to really kill me for the whole week.
Right, I think you have convinced me enough to not worry about adding some dumbell exercises around my two nights at the gym. Thanks!
I don't think overtraining is a problem for most people. I like the example of people who are training everyday like in the army who don't become overtrained. I don't think I could overtrain if I tried! Just make sure you're sleeping well and nourishing the body with plenty of good food.
I am going to perform a little trial on myself and see if I notice any negative or positive effects from training a lot more than I already do. Watch this space......
I don't think overtraining is a problem for most people. I like the example of people who are training everyday like in the army who don't become overtrained. I don't think I could overtrain if I tried! Just make sure you're sleeping well and nourishing the body with plenty of good food.
I am going to perform a little trial on myself and see if I notice any negative or positive effects from training a lot more than I already do. Watch this space......
Don't think it's quite that simple and would also depend on how the person trained really, I use myself as an example and always put everything in to my workouts, as I said previously I used to do a 6 day split routine and initially didn't mind it but it just seemed to wear me down and in my opinion it was overtraining...
I don't think overtraining is a problem for most people. I like the example of people who are training everyday like in the army who don't become overtrained.
That's their job though, most Average Joes work 8 hours a day, commute for an hour or more to & from work, have to cook/ sort out food, commute to & from the gym, work out plus other factors children, spouse etc then get up at 7:00 am the next day to do it all again
I had periods during Mr Mansized where I was overtrainined, I'd totally lost interest in going to the gym, couldn't be bothered with counting caloires, was tired & grumpy all the time & totally lost all interest in all things fitness related. Once I'd rested for a week or so & got some snap down me I was fine
Now I'm on more calories, I feel great, I'm sleeping well & I'm training with more enthusiasm. I can't wait to get to the gym tonight :)
I don't think overtraining is a problem for most people. I like the example of people who are training everyday like in the army who don't become overtrained. I don't think I could overtrain if I tried! Just make sure you're sleeping well and nourishing the body with plenty of good food.
Careful using soldiers as an example. Soldiers are the posterboys of chronic overtraining and are a great example of why to avoid training so often as opposed to that you can and get away with it. They certainly don't.
Soldiers are in arguably the most dangerous job, yet the leading reason for hospitalisation (more than a third of Army cases) of soldiers isn't wounds as a result of their job, it's musculoskeletal injuries caused by overtraining. For example, in 2001, 900,000 visits were specifically for this reason.
Don't think soldiers don't overtrain. They do, and they do it to extremes. They're certainly not an example you want to be following.
Motiv8J - Don't think you need to add another day. Most people if their working hard enough will get just as good results working out twice per week as they will 3 times, and particularly in times of stress, it's the best road to take.
If you have an awful lot on your plate at the moment, don't feel bad about cutting down. You'll likely benefit from it rather than suffer for it!
Thanks for the advice everyone, especailly Anthony. I do exactly what Johnny BB wrote. I never thought that the daily grind does effect your training effectiveness, in that way. I am knackered (tired) from the 6am starts and the 11pm bed times, but I always feel conscious of complaining about the hours as my father-in-law is a tenant farmer and at times he has to work ridiculous hours.
Anway, thanks for the advice. I want to train more but still let my muscles repair properly so I'll try the extra routine and see how it goes.
Ok, well put across Anthony. I still don't think it'll be a problem for me, I have too many things that would get in the way of me overtraining, like shifts at work and off doing activities at the weekends.
Just to balance it slightly though, there must be a significant proportion, who maybe down to genetics, get away with training a lot of times with not negative impact.
Ok, well put across Anthony. I still don't think it'll be a problem for me, I have too many things that would get in the way of me overtraining, like shifts at work and off doing activities at the weekends.
Just to balance it slightly though, there must be a significant proportion, who maybe down to genetics, get away with training a lot of times with not negative impact.
That was more to point out that whoever told you soldiers train everyday and do so without ill effects wasn't telling you the whole story. In fact they're hiding a considerable amount of the data!
Soldiers are perfect examples of overtraining to the extreme. However that is the extreme, and it can manifest itself as something as simple as not getting results as fast as you could be, or just feeling a bit unmotivated or tired during the day.
If you really know your stuff, you can actually deliberately overtrain for short periods (2-4 weeks depending on your genetics) followed by a period of complete rest as part of your overall training strategy. It's called overreaching and is something athletes do sometimes with the proper coaching and monitoring.
"Significant proportion" is the wrong term in that a "small percentage" would be more accurate, but yes you're right, a small amount of the population due to their genetics can get away with training more. You may well be one of them.
But similarly, you may not feel the negative effects, but regardless is the extra training time worth it for no extra positive effects?
Noffs - When you tried the six day split but was still feeling the effects, was that while you were still juicing, or was it before/after a cycle if you don't mind me asking?
