Big fat resounding no. It's rubbish. Learn a real fighting skill, Muay Thai or Jiu Jitsu. Or both.
I agree with Wes. If you learn JJ you will be able to fight drunks on the ground when they grab you and start trying to ground and pound you on a pavement outside a pub!
It'd still be better not to end up on the ground, you don't want one of his mates kicking you in the head!
Big fat resounding no. It's rubbish. Learn a real fighting skill, Muay Thai or Jiu Jitsu. Or both.
I agree with Wes. If you learn JJ you will be able to fight drunks on the ground when they grab you and start trying to ground and pound you on a pavement outside a pub!
If your krav maga class is decent, they will teach you the muay thai and bjj skills you need to know. For my instructor course we had to do a 4 day weekender just on ground techniques. Mauy Thai and JJ as taught are not a real fighting skills,they are both sports. Muay Thai's is taught more as a keep fit and even when is for combat rules are still used. There are no rules in a real fight. JJ is very good, as it is taught the stand up side of it is usually neglected which is something you need, also whic ground and pound is v effective and good looking, what happens if your opponent has friends or there are mulitpe attackers which is very common. While your on the floor trying to lock on the gatekeeper, they will just be kicking your head in.
It'd still be better not to end up on the ground, you don't want one of his mates kicking you in the head!
Very true. The conditioning at BJJ helps you to run fast and for distance. If one of them stays with you, Muay Thai will help you demobilise him. Last resort would be to take it to the ground unless it was definately one on one.
Unfortunatly this is not applicable when defending yourself, attacks change, weapons change, situations change. I teach Urban Krav Maga, which is founded on the belief that the system is evolving and will always do so, if a technique is found not to work in reality, it gets changed. If i teach someone a technique, but they find a variation works better for them, then they are free to use it. Other systems dont have this and a far more rigid. 'This is the way it s and that final' mentality. There are various techniques that other systems use that we have done away with cause they quite simply dont work,
I agree strongly with this. I think this is a very important aspect which should apply to all fighting arts (those based on self protection) and is often overlooked.
If your krav maga class is decent, they will teach you the muay thai and bjj skills you need to know. For my instructor course we had to do a 4 day weekender just on ground techniques. Mauy Thai and JJ as taught are not a real fighting skills,they are both sports. Muay Thai's is taught more as a keep fit and even when is for combat rules are still used. There are no rules in a real fight. JJ is very good, as it is taught the stand up side of it is usually neglected which is something you need, also whic ground and pound is v effective and good looking, what happens if your opponent has friends or there are mulitpe attackers which is very common. While your on the floor trying to lock on the gatekeeper, they will just be kicking your head in.
Aye, I agree with you. I wouldn't say JJJ, BJJ or MT are not real fighting skills though. If you know one of those, you are odds on in a 1:1 situation IMO. Judo is also a great skill to have. It is a sport, but try saying that when you are ouchi gari'd and the judoka knows ne waza. You are in serious trouble.
If your krav maga class is decent, they will teach you the muay thai and bjj skills you need to know. For my instructor course we had to do a 4 day weekender just on ground techniques. Mauy Thai and JJ as taught are not a real fighting skills,they are both sports. Muay Thai's is taught more as a keep fit and even when is for combat rules are still used. There are no rules in a real fight. JJ is very good, as it is taught the stand up side of it is usually neglected which is something you need, also whic ground and pound is v effective and good looking, what happens if your opponent has friends or there are mulitpe attackers which is very common. While your on the floor trying to lock on the gatekeeper, they will just be kicking your head in.
Aye, I agree with you. I wouldn't say JJJ, BJJ or MT are not real fighting skills though. If you know one of those, you are odds on in a 1:1 situation IMO. Judo is also a great skill to have. It is a sport, but try saying that when you are ouchi gari'd and the judoka knows ne waza. You are in serious trouble.
Don't get me wrong, they will offer you a great advantage, its just they way that some are taught thats the problem. The idea that 'If you do this, they will do this, then this will happen' i have seen preached at numerous places i've been too and its a very very bad way to teach.
Fights font work like that, we may start standing up, then the attacker may pull out a knifemid fight, then what? i may get backed up to a wall, then what? He might have friends, there might be no way for me to disengage safely, maybe im with my girlfriend and someone has a knife to them.
I know numerous black belts in various disiplines who have been knocked out in real fights, cause its totally different to the ring,gym and dojo.
Aye, I agree with you. I wouldn't say JJJ, BJJ or MT are not real fighting skills though. If you know one of those, you are odds on in a 1:1 situation IMO.
And I think that's the key here. In Muay thai we're taught to fight one on one. In BJJ I believe (I don't train in BJJ) you're also taught to grapple one on one.
In your previous example, if three or four people kept up with you, while your dealing with one, one of the other guys would have a knife in your kidney in a split second, and I personally think that's where something like Krav Maga's use of the techniques from BJJ, and Muay Thai etc. would give you, at the very least, a better chance of survival.
I.e. it's the application of the techniques that is taught more than the techniques themselves.
So KM is flawless in it's teachings? What if you have an attacker with a knife and his mate has a knife on your mrs? There are unlimited scenarios to a fight. All I know is if someone wants a fight with me, I can keep them away using MT principles with front kicks and leg it. If they want to continue, I'd engage and probably clinch and knee til their ribs were broke. If they pull out a knife, I'm gone. If it went to the ground, I'm happy one on one that I could take out most people.
The most important aspect is not getting into those situations.
So KM is flawless in it's teachings? What if you have an attacker with a knife and his mate has a knife on your mrs? There are unlimited scenarios to a fight. All I know is if someone wants a fight with me, I can keep them away using MT principles with front kicks and leg it. If they want to continue, I'd engage and probably clinch and knee til their ribs were broke. If they pull out a knife, I'm gone. If it went to the ground, I'm happy one on one that I could take out most people.
The most important aspect is not getting into those situations.
As I said I very much want to do combat training purely for the case of defending myself.
Krav Maga sounds like a start.
I suppose every martial arts/combat training is only as good as the instructor so I will shop around and find a good 'un.
