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By Mansized, Thu 24 May 2007 at 8:44am 
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Dummy road pricing trials are set to start as early as next year, it emerged last night. Good plan?

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By FATBOY, Thu 24 May 2007 at 8:45am 
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I think you summed it up with the word 'Dummy'...

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By JustThe5, Thu 24 May 2007 at 11:26am 
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I expect the price of public transport will increase too? Some national rail routes have already increased their prices and in some cases have extended peak hours.

Single bus fare in London has already increased to £2 from £1.50.

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By Bongo, Thu 24 May 2007 at 11:29am 
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JustThe5 wrote:



Single bus fare in London has already increased to £2 from £1.50.



It seems like yesterday when the adult bus fare was 70p.

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By JustThe5, Thu 24 May 2007 at 11:31am 
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Bongo wrote:

JustThe5 wrote:



Single bus fare in London has already increased to £2 from £1.50.



It seems like yesterday when the adult bus fare was 70p.



It used to be 60p if you want to go four stops or less, or 80p for single fare.

peak-time, zones 1-6 is £13, which is more then the congestion charge.

I wonder how much two Shags will have to buy.

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By shutupacut, Thu 24 May 2007 at 11:36am 
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Absolute fucking joke. I pay road tax, I pay fuel tax, I pay insurance, I pay income tax, I pay council tax, I pay value added tax, I pay import tax, I pay savings tax and probably a whole host of taxes I cant remember.

I may now need to pay a tax toget to work so I can earn money to pay the rest of my taxes.

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By Bongo, Thu 24 May 2007 at 11:40am 
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shutupacut wrote:

Absolute fucking joke. I pay road tax, I pay fuel tax, I pay insurance, I pay income tax, I pay council tax, I pay value added tax, I pay import tax, I pay savings tax and probably a whole host of taxes I cant remember.

I may now need to pay a tax toget to work so I can earn money to pay the rest of my taxes.



Tell you what, immigrate and become an Albanian citizen. Come back over here illegally, and get everything you've already got for free!

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By Gubernatrix, Thu 24 May 2007 at 12:37pm 
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Why do people resent paying taxes?

It's an honest question. I mean, taxes are what pay for public services. Would you rather live somewhere where there wasn't free universal health care for example?

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By loki, Thu 24 May 2007 at 12:59pm 
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Gubernatrix wrote:

Why do people resent paying taxes?

It's an honest question. I mean, taxes are what pay for public services. Would you rather live somewhere where there wasn't free universal health care for example?



I don't have a problem with paying taxes cos you're right - they pay for alot. But it's the stealth taxes that always seem to be against the motorist as they are an easy target.

No party would raise income tax as this is direct and easily calculated by your average person. But charging someone a couple of quid a day isn't as obvious.

What's worse is that the services that indirect taxes pay for usually hit the poorest hardest, making inequalities and poverty worse.

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By Gubernatrix, Thu 24 May 2007 at 1:09pm 
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But it's the stealth taxes that always seem to be against the motorist as they are an easy target.

What's an example of a stealth tax against motorists?

Motorists are actually a difficult target politically. They are a large group (most people have cars) and are very vocal. Time after time the government has held back from implementing more ambitious schemes because they have been scared of the motorist backlash.

This government wanted to introduce road pricing ten years ago but backed out of it. People thought that the congestion charge in London would never work, and Ken Livingstone had to stake his whole reputation on it. We seem as addicted to our cars as we are addicted to owning houses.

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