The row erupted on the radio over a gaelic match in Croke Park between Dublin and Meath (which is huge here).
It's one thing that your average scumbag makes a few quid selling tickets but it's the organised touts with websites that are clearly illegal that need shutting down.
and they don't sell pens.
They'll have something in place to make it legal, ie tickets are face value, but there's an £xxx booking fee.
So again, assuming they have the safeguards in place to make their business legal. What's the difference?
It's one thing that your average scumbag makes a few quid selling tickets but it's the organised touts with websites that are clearly illegal that need shutting down.
There are so many websites that do that. I could have got a H Cup final ticket at normal price; however, could not make the trip to Twickenham. When I knew I could see the match, looked online, found about 5 websites that were selling ticekts. The £25 tickets were being sold for £90.
The row erupted on the radio over a gaelic match in Croke Park between Dublin and Meath (which is huge here).
It's one thing that your average scumbag makes a few quid selling tickets but it's the organised touts with websites that are clearly illegal that need shutting down.
and they don't sell pens.
They'll have something in place to make it legal, ie tickets are face value, but there's an £xxx booking fee.
No. They say face value £25, but being sold £90 and then another £5-10 booking fee.
No. They say face value £25, but being sold £90 and then another £5-10 booking fee.
They'll have something in place that makes it legal. So assuming they are legal (the fact that they are still trading says they are), what is the difference?
I appreciate that it's an emotive subject, and what they're doing is 'not very nice', but hundreds of businesses make money from 'not very nice' things.
What makes it an mahor subject is that it is one-off and the emotions involved (the emotion of buy a pc and seeing the world cup final are 10000000000000000 times different) . You may be conned when buying a pc, that is different to your team reaching the Champions League final, you are a season-ticket holder but cannot get a ticket.
The touting problem exists because the governing bodies give so many tickets to non-fans. Liverpool fans were officially given 11k tickets, there are over 20k season-ticket holders for Liverpool. Yet the UEFA family got more then 11k tickets.
There may be some T&C with regards to public interest, which depsite not being illegal, may stop the resale of such items.
1 - People who buy tickets when real fans are desperate to get there hands on them, then sell them for more money
2- People who buy spare tickets off people and see them on the door
I detest the first type, but I dont mind the second type so much. I plan to buy tickets for gigs when I move to Manchester. I'll haggle them to as low as possible
I was offered £500 for my Istanbul ticket and never took it - now that would have been tempting (before the game) but would that have made me a tout?
I agree though, those people that purposely buy tickets to sell them on for more than face value need stamping out! But then again just dont buy from them and its job done!
That is different because they are not touting the pen. However, there may be some ethic laws that in the above scenario the sale is still illegal. Although it may be a legal sale.
But they still buy the ticket with the aim to make a profit (on the associated item).
I'm with Steve on this. Sure, I get fed up sometimes that I haven't been able to get tickets for a gig what have you, but ultimately, it's not the people who are selling them that's the problem - it's the people who are prepared to buy them at inflated prices.
I've noticed now that some gigs are charging a fortune for the ticket in the first place and therefore doing away with the 'touter'.
Rolling Stone tickets - a £100
Barbera Streisand - £150
Not much different to other touting businesses, like people who pre-order upcoming consoles with the aim of selling them for double the price (e.g. wii, PS3, etc.).
I don't condone what they do but I have to say that all they are doing is "servicing the market" and if there are emotional sports buyers who are willing to pay the price then so be it.
