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By beads, Mon 12 May at 9:56pm 
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Jimmie wrote:

ProPlus wrote:


I disagree. Checklists are there so that managers know exactly what needs to be checked and to what standard.
I manage a care firm ands it's a damn good one. I also regularly work over 100 hours a week.
I would never ask any of my staff to do a task that I wouldn't do myself.
There are some bad managers and companies out there but I set up my own firm because I'm passionate about social care and I resent being tarred by the same brush as a minority of useless fat twats.



Calm down ProPlus !

I'm sure you are indeed passionate about your job - I'm sorry if my 'debate' has upset you.

I have an innate dislike of checklists and un-necessary documentation. I have always preferred 'management by walking about', rather than management by checklists.

Now go and have a cup of cocoa and calm down ;-)



OUCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

*hides

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Re: The carer who was sacked for breaching health and safety rules after making out-of-hours visit to dying resident

By Jimmie, Mon 12 May at 9:56pm 
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beads wrote:

I wouldn't drag infection rates into it Jimmie. MRSA is handled quite separately even between different types of NHS setting.



I didn't mention infection rates !

Bring back Matron and give her a bucket of bleach to slosh around. That will kill MRSA

Edited Mon 12 May at 9:56pm

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Re: The carer who was sacked for breaching health and safety rules after making out-of-hours visit to dying resident

By Claudio, Mon 12 May at 9:57pm 
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Jimmie wrote:



I have an innate dislike of checklists and un-necessary documentation. I have always preferred 'management by walking about', rather than management by checklists.



Prejudice rather than hard fact?

Jimmie wrote:



Now go and have a cup of cocoa and calm down ;-)




Patronising tosser!





















Whoops! Did I say that out loud? ;-)

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Re: The carer who was sacked for breaching health and safety rules after making out-of-hours visit to dying resident

By beads, Mon 12 May at 9:59pm 
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Jimmie wrote:

beads wrote:

I wouldn't drag infection rates into it Jimmie. MRSA is handled quite separately even between different types of NHS setting.



I didn't mention infection rates !

Bring back Matron and give her a bucket of bleach to slosh around. That will kill MRSA



Jimmie, we have Matrons but they don't do the cleaning!

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Re: The carer who was sacked for breaching health and safety rules after making out-of-hours visit to dying resident

By Claudio, Mon 12 May at 9:59pm 
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Bring back Matron and give her a bucket of bleach to slosh around. That will kill MRSA



Spoken like a politician.






Uninformed, inaccurate and potentially dangerous.

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Re: The carer who was sacked for breaching health and safety rules after making out-of-hours visit to dying resident

By Jimmie, Mon 12 May at 10:01pm 
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Claudio wrote:

Jimmie wrote:



Bring back Matron and give her a bucket of bleach to slosh around. That will kill MRSA



Spoken like a politician.

Uninformed, inaccurate and potentially dangerous.



Petrol is potentially dangerous - it is not the product which creates the risk, but the method in which it is used.

Bleach kills MRSA on surfaces - fact



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Re: The carer who was sacked for breaching health and safety rules after making out-of-hours visit to dying resident

By ProPlus, Mon 12 May at 10:02pm 
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Maybe I am getting annoyed by this. But when people make knee jerk comments about an ambiguous newspaper article I believe I have every right.
It's not really a debate when you regard fire safety as such a low priority either.
I regularly check on my staff whilst they're working. That way I make sure they're doing the job properly and to their clients' satisfaction. On a more serious note, it helps combat abuse of vulnerable adults.
Check lists are essential in care. It's the people who do them that can meke them useless.

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Re: The carer who was sacked for breaching health and safety rules after making out-of-hours visit to dying resident

By Jimmie, Mon 12 May at 10:02pm 
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beads wrote:

Jimmie wrote:

beads wrote:

I wouldn't drag infection rates into it Jimmie. MRSA is handled quite separately even between different types of NHS setting.



I didn't mention infection rates !

Bring back Matron and give her a bucket of bleach to slosh around. That will kill MRSA



Jimmie, we have Matrons but they don't do the cleaning!



Perhaps a cleaning checklist then ?

Edited Mon 12 May at 10:02pm

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Re: The carer who was sacked for breaching health and safety rules after making out-of-hours visit to dying resident

By Claudio, Mon 12 May at 10:02pm 
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Jimmie wrote:

Claudio wrote:

Jimmie wrote:



Bring back Matron and give her a bucket of bleach to slosh around. That will kill MRSA



Spoken like a politician.

Uninformed, inaccurate and potentially dangerous.



Petrol is potentially dangerous - it is not the product which creates the risk, but the method in which it is used.

Bleach kills MRSA on surfaces - fact




And also damages skin, mixes badly with other chemicals. "Sloshing" it around is not a good move.

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By beads, Mon 12 May at 10:03pm 
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Jimmie wrote:

beads wrote:

Jimmie wrote:

beads wrote:

I wouldn't drag infection rates into it Jimmie. MRSA is handled quite separately even between different types of NHS setting.



I didn't mention infection rates !

Bring back Matron and give her a bucket of bleach to slosh around. That will kill MRSA



Jimmie, we have Matrons but they don't do the cleaning!



Perhaps a cleaning checklist then ?



a checklist??????? would you like that?

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