Top bollocks! Ha ha! I love it!

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I dont think its easy as to say you spend 1 hour a day surfing the web therefore your not working longer/harder/more effectively than your colleagues.
How many of your colleagues smoke for example?
Work issues arent specifically about effort neither. If I felt people were playing political games around me at work, i would moan about it.
Its nothing to do with my level of effort or time spent on here or anywhere else. It would be something I dont like.
Equally undervaluing people/working in a rubbish environment tends to demotivate people. Demotivated people dont/cant work hard especially if the environment is causing them stress. Its difficult to have a clear mind if your under stress from whatever avenue.
People are different. Some people are highly productive/dont chat at all. I have a colleague who is an 8 to 4 man. He works hard and effectively. Where I am 9.30 till 6.30/7.30 some days. People just have different work styles and do things different ways. I personally prefer to chat to my colleagues/surf the web occasionally even if it means I am in the office a little bit longer. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy and all that.
Some people are good at their job as they are just good at it. Some people have to work really hard to be at the same level.

I just dont think you can assume that because someone posts on an internet forum, that they arent good/effective at their job.

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My apologies Will. I tried to keep it non-specific whilst raising an issue I saw.

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It was a time thing balanced with complaining about work. The two way street. I shan't post on this thread again as it is apparent it is not appropriate to raise this point.

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*wonders if he should start a petition to have Barcode banned*

;D

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I thought this was about Multiple Sclerosis.

Now I realise it isn't so I have nothing to add except to say that thread titles should be clearer.
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So did I!

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Work & Multiple Sclerosis
Experts describe strategies that help multiple sclerosis patients cope with symptoms of the disease.
By Elizabeth Heubeck
WebMD Feature
Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

How to handle workplace issues when you have multiple sclerosis.

Elissa Levy, a 37-year-old with secondary progressive multiple sclerosis (MS), is living proof of the unpredictability of this progressive neurological disease that affects the central nervous system.

Soon after being diagnosed in January 2002, her physical status plummeted quickly. The former fitness buff who regularly skied and jogged describes the overwhelming MS-induced fatigue that plagued her almost daily. "Sometimes my eyes hurt too much to watch TV," Levy tells WebMD.

During that period, she traded her running shoes for a cane, broke off a relationship with someone she had once considered marrying, and relinquished a long-sought full-time position as director of a new charter school, taking up part-time work instead.

Then, just as quickly as the symptoms struck, they abated. "I had tried all the drugs on the market for MS. As a last resort, I even did chemotherapy." She found relief through an experimental drug (not yet approved by the FDA for MS).

Now, for the second time in three years, she's had to evaluate her future. "I still dream about going for a jog. But now I can walk home from a movie 20 blocks, instead of taking a cab," Levy says. She is back to work full time, sometimes pulling 12-hour days. And she's re-established a relationship with her old boyfriend.

Through the ups and downs of the disease, people with MS must go on with their lives. Very often, that means making long-range decisions about how to live, from employment to recreation -- and being open to re-evaluating them as needed. In addition to these "big picture" decisions, practicing seemingly small lifestyle strategies can make the disease more manageable.
Working With MS

Like many others with MS, Levy was forced to make decisions about her professional life. Among the questions she faced: Do I tell my employer and, if so, when? Can I continue working? What accommodations will I need?

New laws, ever-increasing resources, and improved attitudes are making these decisions easier. Currently, 43% of adults who have had MS for 12 years retain employment, according to an ongoing nationwide study sponsored by the National Multiple Sclerosis Society (NMSS).

But some experts believe that percentage could be higher. "Employers may have preconceived ideas about what a person with disabilities can do. It takes time to change attitudinal barriers. There's still work to be done," says Steve Nissen, director of employment programs at the NMSS.

That's why, for now, it's generally up to the employee with MS to initiate any discussions involving disclosure or accommodation requests in the workplace.

Nissen considers disclosure -- the whens, whos, and hows of it -- one of the most difficult aspects of working with MS, or any disability.

Before disclosing, Nissen suggests the following: "Ask yourself: 'What's going on to make you think it's time to disclose? Are you having new or different symptoms that's posing a challenge at work? Are you having trouble meeting deadlines, or missing time?'"

Source: http://www.webmd.com/multiple-sclerosis/guide/multiple-sclerosis-work

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I have never been able to come on here at work - old job we didn't have the outside world internet, and new one I daren't risk it as internet useage is allegedly heavily monitored, and the company policy is reasonable and appropriate use (which in real terms is not in working hours: before, after and in lunchtime is fine, and no porn, offensive, defamatory or anything that might cause the company name to fall in to disrupute is not allowed). And then my desk is in the corner of the office, so everyone else can see the screen, so I wouldn't come on anyway.

However, even if I were allowed on, and my screen wasn't in view, I wouldn't be able to post much, as I need to concentrate on the task in hand! I can see how other people can do mutlitasking, and it all depends on the nature of the job that you do - I need to concentrate as I need to be very accurate and detailed, and I work with four different documents at once.

One thing I find about MS, and posts like this, the accusatory and presumptious tone that people take about people who they only know online - sometimes, people use MS to vent/rant about things that only come out on here, and not in 'real' life. Things are blown out of all proportion because not 100% of the facts are there, and the post is skewed as the poster only writes about one side of the story, and all the issues are not always seen.

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That's a bit harsh Will - Barcode could have been a bit more diplomatic by leaving it a few days ( although I know diplomacy is not BC's strongest trait!), but he does raise a valid point. Maybe his timing could have been better.

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