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By Johnny Ace, Mon 16 Jun at 9:30am 
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The Start: A “New School” Bulk

I’m done with cutting now, I’ve managed to lose a good part of 3 stone which I’m very happy with (although I’m very aware not all of that is flab). I’m at around 12-4% BF which ideally I’d like it lower (11-12%) but I do feel quite skinny & small so I’m going on a “bulk” or “looking to gain lean muscle tissue whilst keeping fat gains to a minimum” before cutting again.

A Brief Background

A former fat bloke & have tried “bulking” before, I ended up cutting dietary corners & not getting my calories from clean sources thus ending up putting to much fat on.

Getting Started

To start off with I’ll be doing a loading phase, 20g Creatine & 100g Dextrose mixed in 4l water & drank through a straw over the course of 8 hours for 10 days (no tea drinking * prepared with decaf bags*)

Targets

This is a long term log, I’m not aiming for x amount of weight within x amount of weeks, I want to go along at a nice steady pace & not pressure myself to add weight or size, I’m in no rush. The overall goal is too look awesome nekkid! I’ll log diet (though not religiously every day), workouts & take measurements every 3-4 weeks

Calories & Diet

Calories will start at 2400 (including the 400 from the Dextrose). This puts my under the 2800 which 180lbs x 16 but will be more managable for me to eat atm

Calories during the course will increase very cautiously (I may sell myself short but I’d rather err on the side of caution). I’ll only add 50 cals at a time (or 100 over 2 weeks). In the past I feel I added them too quickly, this time round I’m earning extra calories

General diet is based around, milk, oats, fruit, vegetables, wholemeal bread (inc bagels, pittas & muffins), pasta, rice, potatoes, bran flakes, lean meats, tuna, white fish, oily fish, sandwich meats, low fat cheese, eggs, nuts, peanut butter plus a post workout shake (whey, ultra fine oats & Maltodextrin) for convenience & tweakabilty .

Macro’s will be roughly 25 P/ 50 C/ 25 F. I shall fine tune my diet & timings to avoid bloating & feeling lethargic

Plenty of water (4l+), fish oil caps & multi vit to be taken dailly

Now, alcohol & junk wise (the reason why I was a fatty in the first place) unfortunately I’m not one of these guys who get away with weekend benders & junk food without gaining an ounce of fat.

Junk - I’ll treat myself (not take the piss) every 3 weeks max & try & make an alternate healthy version where possible.

Alcohol is part of my social life & binges do happen, for a week where a binge will happen I’m going to trim my calories by 300 two days before, the day of the binge & two days after (to limit fat gain) Again I’ll try & keep them down to every 4 weeks or so (I may go on Facebook later & check all my friends Birthday’s so I’ll expect them & can plan around them – 1st one is a week this weekend, big Birthday bash)).

If I feel I’ve done particularly awesome in the gym, I’ll boost my calories a little, if I feel I did pants I’ll lower them slightly & work harder next time. It may halt progress but I’d rather that than gain fat



Workouts

Routine 1

Leg Extension
Leg Curl

Leg Press
Machine Pullover

Lat Pulldown
Chest Press

Shoulder Press
Bicep Curl

SLDL
Ab Crunch

Routine 2

SLDL
Leg Press

Leg Extension
Leg Curl

Chest Press
Single Arm Cable Row

Shoulder Press
Tricep Rope Pulldown

Rotary Torso
Calf Raise


I’m going to hit these hard for 4-6 weeks HIT style then see where I’m at. They’re paired into supersets. After that I’m going to give body part specialisation a try (as I’ve never done it before & have the New HIT which contains a bunch of specialisations to do) for 2 weeks at a time (with at least a 2 week break from specialisation in between each as per the New HIT). I will be giving Squats & dips some practice time & hopefully start to do them at some point.

Measurements (“)

Neck: 14.90
Chest: 38.50
Upper Arm Flexed: 13.40
Upper Arm Relaxed: 12.00
Forearm: 10.50
Thigh:22.20
Calf:14.20
Waist (Navel): 34

Stats

Height: 6ft 5”
Weight: 180lb (12st 12lbs)
BF: 12%

Caliper Skinfolds (mm)

Abdominal: 17
Chest: 6
Thigh: 8

I’m going to keep tight tabs on my waist & abdominal skinfold measurements, if they hit a certain measurement I’m abandoning the bulk & reassessing

I know some guys won’t agree with the above but I’m going to give it a shot

If I start to creep junk into my regular diet or loaf in the gym I want a slap in the face from you guys

Lets rock & roll!!!! *Flexes Water Pistols* :P

Edited Mon 16 Jun at 9:39am

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Re: Johnny B B's Training Log

By Noffles, Mon 16 Jun at 9:38am 
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Good luck then...

Good to see you label the "New School" bulk... =)

My one question would be, why the lack of compound exercises in your training?

I have fairly good sized muscles and would recommend things like flat bench, dead lift, squat and some of the lesser ones, bent over row, dumbell press flat and upright)... and obviously a few others but you get my point, just my thoughts...

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Re: Johnny B B's Training Log

By Johnny Ace, Mon 16 Jun at 9:46am 
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Cheers Noffs :)

It does seem a little light on the compound movements, the routine's are mixes of a couple on here a & couple from the New HIT book, they should cover all the bases.

One thing I really want to do is elimainate the machine work & use more free weight movements

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Re: Johnny B B's Training Log

By Noffles, Mon 16 Jun at 9:50am 
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Johnny wrote:

Cheers Noffs :)

It does seem a little light on the compound movements, the routine's are mixes of a couple on here a & couple from the New HIT book, they should cover all the bases.

One thing I really want to do is elimainate the machine work & use more free weight movements



Perfect the compounds don't use machines... it's all down to how and what you feel when doing them though.. I have tried and tested over the years and know what works for me, whether they work for yourself though may be a test for you?

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By Richy23, Mon 16 Jun at 9:52am 
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Go for it JBB!

any reason why you are supersetting in pairs on all exercises?

I can understand the leg supersets but I'd have thought a completely superset routine was going to be tough and may not allow adequete rest to perfom your best on all exercises; esp where the supersets arent used as a pre-exhaust of opposing muscle group. So many supersets may be suited more for a short fatloss routine.

And I agree with noffles to a certain extent. Although machine exercises are very viable, if theres no reason you cant chin/dip and bench press then get them in there in one of the routines.

Richy

Edited Mon 16 Jun at 9:54am

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Re: Johnny B B's Training Log

By Noffles, Mon 16 Jun at 9:59am 
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Richy23 wrote:

Go for it JBB!



And I agree with noffles to a certain extent.

Richy



I like the disclaimer you have in there Richy.. just in case people though you were going mad...?

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Re: Johnny B B's Training Log

By Johnny Ace, Mon 16 Jun at 10:00am 
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Noffles wrote:

Perfect the compounds don't use machines... it's all down to how and what you feel when doing them though.. I have tried and tested over the years and know what works for me, whether they work for yourself though may be a test for you?




I've tried squatting before & I've bench pressed in the past, but for some reason I've just never felt comfortable with them. I always seemed to worry more about my form than puttting in the effort. With the machines, apart from a few minor details (in comparison) I feel I can knuckle down & give it my all

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Re: Johnny B B's Training Log

By Noffles, Mon 16 Jun at 10:02am 
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Johnny wrote:

Noffles wrote:

Perfect the compounds don't use machines... it's all down to how and what you feel when doing them though.. I have tried and tested over the years and know what works for me, whether they work for yourself though may be a test for you?




I've tried squatting before & I've bench pressed in the past, but for some reason I've just never felt comfortable with them. I always seemed to worry more about my form than puttting in the effort. With the machines, apart from a few minor details (in comparison) I feel I can knuckle down & give it my all



You'll use more muscles though as there are muscles used for controlling the exercise as well as doing the actual pushing or pulling... the form will bring on heavier weights eventually..

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By Richy23, Mon 16 Jun at 10:05am 
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Johnny wrote:

Noffles wrote:

Perfect the compounds don't use machines... it's all down to how and what you feel when doing them though.. I have tried and tested over the years and know what works for me, whether they work for yourself though may be a test for you?




I've tried squatting before & I've bench pressed in the past, but for some reason I've just never felt comfortable with them. I always seemed to worry more about my form than puttting in the effort. With the machines, apart from a few minor details (in comparison) I feel I can knuckle down & give it my all



I can understand squats but bench press form isnt all that difficult.....

1. Lye down keeping a neutral arch in your lower back.
2. Feet flat on the floor.
3. Tense your mid-setion.
4. Keep the shoulder blades back and in the bench.
5. Squeeze the chest (relaxing other unworked areas) to push up the weight (dumbbells are best if working out alone) above the chest.
6. Lower down to a comfortable position keeping the weights in-line with the chest not up near the neck. For me I only go arms parallel with the ground to protect my shoulders.
7. Then maintaining 1-4; repeat 5 and 6.

What about chinups and dips?

Just seems silly to me having 2 seperate routine then repeating numerous exercises in both.

Edited Mon 16 Jun at 10:07am

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Re: Johnny B B's Training Log

By Johnny Ace, Mon 16 Jun at 10:06am 
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Richy23 wrote:

Go for it JBB!

any reason why you are supersetting in pairs on all exercises?

I can understand the leg supersets but I'd have thought a completely superset routine was going to be tough and may not allow adequete rest to perfom your best on all exercises; esp where the supersets arent used as a pre-exhaust of opposing muscle group. So many supersets may be suited more for a short fatloss routine.



It's just help me keep the tempo up really, all of it will be performed with minimal rest between sets to stop me loafing about. I read (in Ant's Q&A I think) that working this way produces more growth hormone & keeps up the cardio vascular fitness. Plus one of my past vices has been taking too long on workouts

I've tried to pair them up as opposite to one another as I can so they shouldn't affect one another too much apart from the Leg Ext/ Leg Curl then Leg Press which is done on purpose

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