Because it should never be accepted in society that it's ok to take you own life. It should be encouraged that you can reach out, get a reality check, there is hope. People can't just go around doing what they like when it effects others, they are not just hurting themselves.
Encouraging to seek help is one thing, but accepting that our life belongs only to ourselves and as such is ultimately ours to do what we choose with is another.
When I tried to kill myself I spoke to a counsellor prior regarding the subject. She pointed out to me that lots of people would miss me and hurt if I killed myself. I thought how utterly selfish of them to leave me in this hell hole of a situation and expect me to have to live. How selfish to force me to have to pull myself out of bed in the morning! It works both ways on the selfish front really.
Of course like with any subject there remains the right to object. I just hate that idea people SHOULD have to live.
I cannot honestly believe that I have just read that, on this thread. The subject matter seems to make your comment extremely inappropriate, Apple (and I am saying that in a completely objective way).
If the discussion was a wider one, about the choice to live or die, maybe in cases such as terminal illness, I believe the choice should be there.
I would suggest the way you kill yourself is a moot point. If you place yourself in a situation where there is a damn good chance you won't make it out alive you are really facing the fact you'll likely die. I guess only exception would be something really manipulative like overdosing when you'd expect someone to walk it any moment or in others company.
I'd suggest anyone who kills themselves wishes that someone would come and rescue them- the fact is they are quite sure that person won't come.
I'd have said it was the exact opposite of having a choice ... being in such a desperate place that you can see no alternative ...
Have you been in the situation?
a chap I worked with hanged himself because his job was (in his opinion) being devalued.
a week before he did it, I was talking to him and he just kept going on about how he could see no way out of the situation he was in and saying he'd rather be dead than let managers walk all over him in the way they were ... no-one thought for a second he actually meant that
Because it should never be accepted in society that it's ok to take you own life. It should be encouraged that you can reach out, get a reality check, there is hope. People can't just go around doing what they like when it effects others, they are not just hurting themselves.
Encouraging to seek help is one thing, but accepting that our life belongs only to ourselves and as such is ultimately ours to do what we choose with is another.
When I tried to kill myself I spoke to a counsellor prior regarding the subject. She pointed out to me that lots of people would miss me and hurt if I killed myself. I thought how utterly selfish of them to leave me in this hell hole of a situation and expect me to have to live. How selfish to force me to have to pull myself out of bed in the morning! It works both ways on the selfish front really.
Is that not Gahoo's point? You identified an issue and got help.
Gahoo suggests that he can't imagine anyone getting to the point where they cannot go/speak to someone/do something that may benefit them, and their state of mind.
Gahoo suggests that he can't imagine anyone getting to the point where they cannot go/speak to someone/do something that may benefit them, and their state of mind.
I was pointing out that a 'reality check' isn't usually enough in that situation.
Because it should never be accepted in society that it's ok to take you own life. It should be encouraged that you can reach out, get a reality check, there is hope. People can't just go around doing what they like when it effects others, they are not just hurting themselves.
Encouraging to seek help is one thing, but accepting that our life belongs only to ourselves and as such is ultimately ours to do what we choose with is another.
When I tried to kill myself I spoke to a counsellor prior regarding the subject. She pointed out to me that lots of people would miss me and hurt if I killed myself. I thought how utterly selfish of them to leave me in this hell hole of a situation and expect me to have to live. How selfish to force me to have to pull myself out of bed in the morning! It works both ways on the selfish front really.
I'm sorry you feel that way. Like I said, I can't imagine the thought process behind it all, I've never been in that situation you have. I look at at from the angle that if I was to take my life now, I would be leaving a 2 year old son fatherless, on any level that does not seem right to me.
