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By Apple, Sun 6 Jul at 12:51pm 
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Hey all,

Got a bit of an issue at the moment and would like your input.

Been working for same company for 2.5 years now- got a promotion in April and a nice pay rise so all was going well. Now some of you might remember the issues I had last year with my manager being a bitch outside of work and we had a fall out and haven't really spoken since then.

I got called into a meeting on Friday and found out some of my team are shit stirring and complaining about various things I've done (personally I don't feel these points are valid) I also got in trouble for talking on internal calls and chatting too much in the office. That's totally fine and valid point which I take on board. The thing is they pulled me into a meeting of concern over it with HR and said they had warned me over this already (they fucking never) and now I've got some big action plan I need to achieve which includes going back to doing more of an admin role (Action 40 emails a day including all my current work). If I don't reach the targets it becomes a disciplinary.

I'm not paid enough anyway which I didn't mind as the work and people were cool. Now it's time to move on though (RIGHT NOW!)

I want to hand in my notice on Wednesday when I'm back to work. Have any of you quite jobs without somewhere new to go to? I'm a bit worried but I can't take this job any more and need to leg it ASAP.

The other alternative is move out of flat and in with a relative for a month (I'd have enough money to live there, pay a modest rent and live OK for about maximum of 4 months). I have a business idea I'm looking into at the moment but this feels scary as it's far less security.

What do you guys think of it all?

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By ProPlus, Sun 6 Jul at 12:58pm 
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Business ideas are always scary! Depending on what it is, make sure you research your market and competition first. In the current economic climate, I'd be inclined to wait though. I'd look at other jobs before you hand your notice in. I know you must feel uncomfortable being there but you may feel better knowing you're leaving soon and don't have to put up with it for much longer.

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By Chris, Sun 6 Jul at 1:01pm 
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You should speak to Benny!


I think leaving the job is more than likely the best option. If you are not hapy with where you work, there is really no reason to stay there other than the income.
It is a scary task to leave paid work with no other means of income to tide you over.

As long as you can work through it and find somewhere to make a decent wage until either your business plan or your next career move are cemented.


I do think it's a good idea to move. Some companies can be rediculous. You could always threatened legal action onyour way out!! :-)

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By Matt, Sun 6 Jul at 1:02pm 
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talk to them, they say they have warned you before which they haven't, and now they are changing your duties.

I guess they are thinking if you have enough time to chat, you can swap the chat with some admin.

Anyway, If you really hate the job and can't see it going anywhere tell them this and if they don't do anything just quit.

I wouldn't be trying out your first business ideas just yet though, get something else and explorer the business in your free time.

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By Phoenix, Sun 6 Jul at 1:02pm 
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Aww poor apple :(

I know it sounds like a horrible place to work, and am glad you are finally making a move to get out of there. But I wouldn't quit without somewhere to go, tbh. Even if you have somewhere to crash, costs start mounting and you'll run out of money pretty quick, and I know your independence is v important to you. I think , grit your teeth, and start investing all your spare time in the evenings looking for a new decent job.

The other thing, is start mending fences with senior personnel before you leave, try and salvage something to get a semi decent reference.

Finally - I think you should talk to HR if you have complaints about way you have been treated, even if you are leaving, you shouldn't go with a stain on your record.

Hope it goes well.

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By Apple, Sun 6 Jul at 1:08pm 
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Matt wrote:

talk to them, they say they have warned you before which they haven't, and now they are changing your duties



Thank you all, it's a stressful and shite situation really!

In the meeting I told them I'd never been told this and my manager (J who hates me) said 'yes when we spoke to you about X and Y last time') I said I don't recall anything being said- how can I argue with that!?!

With regards to business ideas- It's doing something which would place me in direct competition with my current company. I'm going to sit down the next few days and look at it in detail with a friend of mine who is a programmer and feels it could work.

Also I'm sure they'll give me a good reference as they wouldn't have given me the promotion and pay rise if they really thought I was shite.

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By Ben, Sun 6 Jul at 1:30pm 
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Apple wrote:



I got called into a meeting on Friday and found out some of my team are shit stirring and complaining about various things I've done (personally I don't feel these points are valid) I also got in trouble for talking on internal calls and chatting too much in the office. That's totally fine and valid point which I take on board. The thing is they pulled me into a meeting of concern over it with HR and said they had warned me over this already (they fucking never) and now I've got some big action plan I need to achieve which includes going back to doing more of an admin role (Action 40 emails a day including all my current work). If I don't reach the targets it becomes a disciplinary.



One thing that stands out for me with this is the doumentation of the conversations - has anything been documented, and written down on paper? If not, then why not? If I were you I would start to keep a diary of any conversations that go on. I would also get familiar with your contract, T&Cs of emplyment and any job description that you have. If your employers want to change what you are doing, then your T&Cs/contract may need to change to

One thing to be careful of is to not beceme too tied up in emotions, and the personalities of the people involved. I know it is hard, but try to take an objective view of what is going on.

In terms of your action plan: is it acheiveable in the time they have given you to do it? Make sure you can back up everything you do with evidence, and if you think you are not going to be able to achieve it, then speak to your line manager sooner rather than later to flag the issue/negotiate an extension. Be proactive in the task you have been set, it will work wonders (believe me, I have set two of my line reports this stuff in the past, and for them to not show any interest in it was awful for me, and cost them their jobs in the end)

If you really feel it is time to move on - and knowing how your cash-flow often is! - get signed up with some temp agencies before you go, so that at least you will have cash coming in asap.

At the end of the day if you really do hate it, and have been for a while, it may be time to move on to something new. Life is too short, and moves to quickly to plod on with something that gets you down :)

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By Claudio, Sun 6 Jul at 5:08pm 
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Ben gives ace advice.

You admit that they have some grounds, but not all grounds - so you are being reasonable.

Just chucking your job now seems a little unwise - plan your exit. Get another job, or something temporary if you can.

Get a copy of your employer's disciplinary, grievance, capability procedures etc - and make sure you understand them.

Most of all - don't give them any grounds for complaint. (I was recently talking to somebody whom was hacked off because he kept getting pulled up for being late - simple solution: don't be late.)

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By beads, Sun 6 Jul at 7:56pm 
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oh dear....... sorry to hear about this honey.

I'd agree with the others that say you should try and work through this a little before you move on. get it established where they are wrong and where they might have a point, put it right and then job hunt at your leisure.

xx though.

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By Ben, Sun 6 Jul at 8:16pm 
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Claudio wrote:

Ben gives ace advice.



And then you just repeat it! :-P

This is why I want to go the HR way :)

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